tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568034.post110503005703124772..comments2023-05-23T11:59:41.450-04:00Comments on bits of starstuff: on the "fully man, fully god" issueMikayla Starstuffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12511426810563234113noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568034.post-1105118864453909602005-01-07T12:27:00.000-05:002005-01-07T12:27:00.000-05:00Yes, I have; though it was some years afterwards t...Yes, I have; though it was some years afterwards that I realized the significance of whom he was. It <I>was</I> in my very vocal why-I-can't-be-a-Christian phase and I recall the gist of the coversation being his reasoning why I could still be a Christian without believing Jesus the literal son of god. Suppose there's hop for me yet. <br /><br />At that time, my father was a Chancellor at a teleeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18350258215919750640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568034.post-1105116433889792222005-01-07T11:47:00.000-05:002005-01-07T11:47:00.000-05:00Wow Robin, I didn't see that last comment on my la...Wow Robin, I didn't see that last comment on my last post. We must be on at the same time.<br /><br />That is really impressive. And the quotes from Augustine are telling.<br /><br />You really had philosophical discussion with Bishop Sprong! I've not read his stuff but I have heard a lot about him. But the fact that I've even heard of him says something about his fame :)Mikayla Starstuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12511426810563234113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568034.post-1105116153757683572005-01-07T11:42:00.000-05:002005-01-07T11:42:00.000-05:00Thanks very much for the kind comments Robin. It i...Thanks very much for the kind comments Robin. It is true, when someone is relying on dogma rather then real facts and reason you will never change their mind. Faith trumps fact.<br /><br />I'm very familiar with the "liar, lunatic, or Lord" argument by C. S. Lewis. It totally forgets that people can deeply believe things that are really not true, so perhaps that would fall under the category of "Mikayla Starstuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12511426810563234113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568034.post-1105116089859287022005-01-07T11:41:00.000-05:002005-01-07T11:41:00.000-05:00"Blow it out your ear" ~ Actually, that was my way...<I>"Blow it out your ear"</I> ~ Actually, that was my way of trying to get a message across to <I>all of us</I> to lighten up. After I posted it, I realized it was not quite within the context I had intended; however, deleting it would have deleted the entire post. Call me lazy, I guess.<br /><br />Travis, I feel I must correct you regarding the 2,000 year bit. Actually, its closer to 1,600 teleeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18350258215919750640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568034.post-1105111438702500012005-01-07T10:23:00.000-05:002005-01-07T10:23:00.000-05:00Don't you find your response, "go blow it out your...Don't you find your response, "go blow it out your ear" kind of ironic in light of your criticism of the close-mindedness of ardent believers? How is intelligent conversation and dialogue supposed to take place in a context where rebuttals involve clever phrases like "go blow it our your ear"? Is it at all possible that you might be just as "ardent" about your view that Jesus is not God as I amTravis Prinzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499855451918413702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568034.post-1105109019398482332005-01-07T09:43:00.000-05:002005-01-07T09:43:00.000-05:00Oh Travis, go blow it out your ear, okay?
Mikel, ...Oh Travis, go blow it out your ear, okay?<br /><br />Mikel, I really enjoy your postings. You provide thoughtful, articulate commentary in a reasonable fashion. I learnt long ago that we cannot make everyone happy, nor can we alter their opinion if they are steadfastly against us. That is the <I>real</I> difference between people their kind and ours. It has nothing to do with intellegence, teleeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18350258215919750640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568034.post-1105105721822556542005-01-07T08:48:00.000-05:002005-01-07T08:48:00.000-05:00*sigh*
Unfortunately, I hardly have time to even ...*sigh*<br /><br />Unfortunately, I hardly have time to even begin addressing the historical errors in those posts, the most insulting of which is the reading of later Christianity (which was sometimes oppressive, unfortunately) into the early church. It was not a big, nasty, powerful, oppressive, mean church that considered Marcion (mid second century!) a heretic, but an overwhelming large groupTravis Prinzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499855451918413702noreply@blogger.com